Hey, everybody. Welcome back to In The Middle, the podcast that is literally, I think, destroying partisan politics in America. At least that's the goal. That's right. We hold both sides accountable.
So today's episode is is gonna be a quick one because I just wanna talk about the vice presidential debate that is gonna take place tonight on CBS. Now I'm gonna give you my prediction for what I think is gonna happen, and then that's pretty much it and wrap up and and let you guys watch for yourselves tonight and see if any of these predictions actually come true. I believe that right out of the gate that even though CBS has come out and said they're gonna be fair, and they're gonna moderate this fairly, which I'm not sure that I actually believe. But they said they're gonna not fact check either person, either candidate, but they will let the candidates fact, fact check each other. So that should be interesting, but we'll see.
You know? The ABC debate was, you know, abysmal failure, more so on ABC and the moderators. I mean, they did not moderate. It was like a 3 on 1 basketball game, And you guys all saw it. You you know it was not a fair fight, and I think it was so lopsided and so god awful that, it really, affected Trump's ability to perform, because that was not his best night on a debate stage by far.
So, anyway, tonight, I think, is gonna go a little different. I really think that JD Vance is going to dominate this debate. I don't think it's gonna be a contest, and there there is a reason why. JD is polished. He is cool under fire.
He has spent the last couple months dismantling the bias in the media and the media themselves, and I think he's gonna do the same thing tonight. I I really do. Tim Waltz, on the other hand, literally has nothing to run on. The whole Kamala Harris campaign has no substance to run on. They've literally spent their political careers being left of left, and now they've tried to move to the center just to placate, just just to patronize and and try to get votes, which, you know, I get it.
You know, I mean, I guess if you're running for an election and try to be getting the highest office of the land, you know, I think it lacks character, but I guess you're gonna do what you think you need to do to get votes. And so that's all it is. They don't they don't believe in any of the things they say. They don't believe in any of the centrist policies that they have found themselves spouting. It's all for votes.
It's it's patronizing and and and placating to to get votes. That's all it is. I think Tim Waltz, I'm expecting nothing but a night full of lies, dodges, deflections, because he's got nothing to run on. I'm so so confident that he has no substance to run on that I honestly think we could create a drinking game out of tonight's debate. And I I heard this, somebody mentioned it on a show, and I thought, yeah, you're right.
We could because that campaign lacks substance so much that I think we could literally create a drinking game out of this because there's nothing there. So I think JD Vance is gonna hold his own. I think he's gonna do well. I think he's gonna control the narrative. I think he's gonna bring, policies to the table.
I I I just think he is going to completely dismantle Tim Walz, and I think Tim Walz is gonna be, I think he's gonna get rattled and just spew a bunch of lies. He will not. Again, it'll be lie. Here's the whole strategy of Tim Waltz and his handlers. Lie, dodge the question, and if you can't dodge it, deflect it.
Mark my words. That is what you're gonna see tonight. So confident we can create a drinking game out of it. Now be careful if you decide to actually create this drinking game because you could find yourself at the end of the night totally what we used to call back in the day wasted. Yeah.
Because I think you're gonna be drinking a lot. So let's let's, let's break down some of the things that I'm betting he'll throw out tonight, and you can make your little drinking card if you want. But let's talk about some of the guaranteed lies that I know Tim Waltz is gonna throw out there. And if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I'll I'll eat it.
I'll eat crow tomorrow and and tell you I was wrong. I don't think I'm gonna be. But alright. Let's break this down. First up, Tim Waltz is gonna tell you guys that JD Vance and Trump want a national abortion ban.
Take a drink when he does. But let's be real. We all know both Trump and Vance have been absolutely clear that it's up to the states to decide the abortion decision state by state. And JD Vance has a, you know, a really good, viewpoint on this or I guess, you know, experience with an with this and and how the Supreme Court pushed it back to the states and how the states reacted because he is currently the senator, one of the senators for for Ohio. And if you don't know, for those of you in Ohio, Ohio put it on the ballot.
They made it a ballot initiative to change Ohio's constitution. And Ohio voters went to the the voting booth and said, yeah. You know what? Abortion can be legal in Ohio. Now the the draft amendment that was voted on had some stipulations in it, but it the supreme court sent it back to the states when they overturned Roe v Wade, and Ohio, you know, took it to the ballot, and the citizens of Ohio decided it's legal here with some stipulations.
And so for JD Vance, who, you know, I think morally and his stance is, you know, he doesn't agree with abortion, and I'm trying not to put words in his mouth, but but that it's up to the states and the citizens of those states to decide. And him and Trump have been very, very clear on this. I mean, there's plenty of video interview questions out there that you can find where they say, no. I'm I'm not interested in a national abortion ban. And even Trump has said, you even asking that question creates an irrelevancy.
It's it's irrelevant to even talk about a national abortion because it's up to the states that you don't have to do any abortion at the federal level, rules, laws, regulations, because it's up to the states to decide how they wanna handle it. And I think that's the right way to do it. More things should be pushed to the states and let the people of the state decide how they want their state to operate. So there is gonna be no national abortion ban if Trump and Vance get elected, but Tim Waltz tonight, that will be one of the claims that he will make. The other one the that he will make is that Trump, sorry, and Vance support project 2025.
Guaranteed, he is gonna bring up project 2025. And when he does, go ahead and take a drink. Never mind the fact that both of them have said they had nothing to do with project 2025. Hell, the director of project 2025 went on national television and said, no. Neither one of them had anything to do with project 2025.
They didn't contribute to it. They they did not help write any of it. We did not seek their advice on any of it. They had nothing to do with it. And it's put out by the heritage foundation for those of you that don't know what project 2025 is.
It's an initiative put out by the heritage foundation. They they've done it every year since 1981 or every 4 years since 1981 where they put down what they believe are conservative principles and hope that the next administration that comes in will adopt some of those principles they have not and cannot endorse and have never because they cannot, they're a nonprofit, endorse any candidate. So they haven't endorsed Trump. Trump hasn't endorsed the plan. In fact, he's actually him advanced both have distanced themselves from the project 2025 initiative.
And if you just read the document, which I know most liberals out there have not taken the time to actually read the full document, It's not crazy town. Now there's some elements in there I think are, you know, a little over the top or whatever, but it's not some hardcore right wing thing that their media and the the dems are making it out to be. Regardless, Trump and Vance have nothing to do with it. It's a fact. It's not, you know, open for debate.
It is a fact that the media and the Dems keep lying about to say that they had anything to do with project 2025 or that they support it because neither one of them have said that publicly or privately. So but guaranteed, Tim Waltz is gonna say something about Trump and Vance supporting project 2025. Mark my words. Next, I guarantee he's gonna say something about Trump and Vance held up border security because border security is the most glaring failure that Kamala Harris has. I mean, it is obvious now and that forever all the I know the media is running cover for her, but she was named responsible for the border when Biden got elected.
Well, I use elected loosely. But when he came into office, he assigned her the responsibility of figuring out what the root cause was of people coming across the border, and she failed because the idea of trying to figure out the root cause was to stem the root cause, to cut it off, to make sure it doesn't keep happening. But as we all know, more than 20,000,000 in the some estimates are 30,000,000 people have now illegally crossed our border and in our country. It is one of the biggest failures in policy and in security and national security probably in our lifetime. I mean you've had more illegal immigrants come in than the entire population of the state of Ohio.
I mean think about that for a second, and they've just allowed it to happen. In straw poll, most Americans do not agree with open border policies. So this is a huge glare. Now they're the dems have been saying that Trump has tried to hold up, that he called lawmakers in congress when they were trying to pass a border bill, and told them to hold it up because he didn't want Joe Biden or Kamala Harris to get credit for fixing the border. Completely false.
Completely debunked. Easily debunked. False. Here's the situation. When Biden came into office, he eliminated all the executive orders that Trump had in place to secure the border.
Every one of them, they opened it wide up, and they don't tell you about that. He eliminated all of them. Day 1, he campaigned on it, and then he did it. So don't let them tell you that they didn't open up the border because they did. Now to the bill that the dems were trying to pass in congress, the reason most Republicans and trust me, I'm not a fan of Republicans, so but I will give you the truth.
Most Republicans voted against it because it had pork in it because it wasn't just a spending bill to secure our southern border. It was also sending money overseas, something, for whatever reason, our congressional leaders love to do, just to send our hard earned money overseas to places and countries that we don't know about, care about, or even need to be involved in their geopolitics. But that is why the bill didn't pass because it had too much pork in it, and these guys knew the congressional members that voted against it. They knew they were gonna have to answer for those votes come this cycle, this election cycle, because a lot of them are up for reelection. So they voted it down because they knew their constituents would hold their feet to the firearm.
Why they approved or voted for a bill that wasn't going to actually secure the southern border, it was to send money all around the world. But you can bet your butt. Tim Waltz tonight will say that Trump held and Vance had the opportunity to secure the border, but voted down a border bill. And when he does, take a drink. Alright.
So I also think and this is, like, the most classic line. I literally laughed out loud when Kamala said this at her debate with Trump, but I guarantee he's gonna talk about how he's a gun owner and an avid hunter. And when he does, take another shot. No pun intended. He this guy is he's a buffoon.
Okay? He just is. But he's going to rail about how, you know, they don't wanna confiscate your guns. He's an avid hunter. He owns a gun, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
He's gonna say that, you know, he supports your second amendment rights, etcetera, etcetera. It's it's like clockwork. It's placation. It's it's just it's patronizing is what it is. And I'm not saying Tim Waltz doesn't own a gun.
I'm not saying that at all. But the the guy is a liberal. I mean, he is, like, communist card carrying Chinese sympathizing liberal. So trust me when I say he's okay owning a gun. He's just not okay if you own a gun.
So but he will say it. It'll it'll come up tonight, and when he does, take a drink. Now this is probably one of one of the most absurd ones. They say it all the time, but at some point tonight's debate, he will say that if Trump were to be elected, he will become a dictate dictator and completely end free and fair elections and then take a big drink when he does because he's gonna say it at some point. He'll say, I don't know because of the multiple now assassination attempts on Trump that he'll say he's a threat to democracy, but that has been their tagline for Trump, which is why people are trying to take shots at him.
But he will say something to the effect that Trump Trump were to be elected. He'll become a dictator. He'll end free and fair elections. Never mind that that's exactly what the Democratic Party is trying to do. So it see it always seems like they accuse the other side of everything they're actually trying to do.
It's really truly weird and ironic. But he'll say, guys, if you vote in Trump, he's gonna become a dictator. He'll end free and fair elections forever. But he's just trying to gaslight the audience. That's all it is, guys.
It's just emotional manipulation tactics, which I I think I should probably do a whole show on manipulation tactics, emotional manipulation tactics so you can start seeing them clearly because it happens all the time. Every time they open their mouth, they're manipulating you emotionally. So I I probably should. I should probably do a whole show on it. Finally, he will say in this drinking game and you guys could keep going.
You could make a much bigger drinking card because I think at this point, I've given you, like, 3 or 4. So that's only, like, 3 or 4 shots. You could do more, but I'm trying to keep the show as short as possible today. But finally, he'll say something along the lines of Trump and Vance wanting to end Social Security and possibly Medicare. He'll say and if he does, make sure to take a drink.
But he'll say that they want to end it. And, again, this is this is to get the older generation vote, those who are on Social Security currently or who may soon be on Social Security Social Security. Never mind that the actual Social Security system right now is, like, the greatest Ponzi scheme in America. I will do a show later on that. But he will try to scare all the elderly population and those who are getting ready to go on, Social Security that if Trump and Vance get in, guys, they're gonna try to end Social Security.
That's gonna happen. Right? That's that's the whole point he's gonna try to make. No substance no substance at all, just lies, just bullshit lies that have all been debunked. Keep in mind, Trump was already president once, and he had full control of the house.
And, yes. So if Trump wanted to be a dictator, right, if Trump wanted to end Social Security, if Trump wanted and really cared to do a national abortion ban, he would have done it in his first term. He did none of those things. Just remember that. Like, this the shit is so obvious.
The lies are so obvious that anyone who actually thinks there's a shred of, truth or relevancy to anything Kamala Harris and Tim Waltz say are the crazy libs of the Democrat party. It's it makes me question your ability to use logic and reasoning and just see reality for what it is. If Trump wanted to be a dictator, he would have never left the White House in 2020. Think about it. He already had the opportunity to do it, and he didn't do it.
Right? And you guys gotta start looking at peep what people do, their actions, not what they say, but what they do. And when you start looking at it from that lens, you'll start to see some of the bullshit and some of the facade. But anyway, you guys can come up with more categories. I encourage you to do so.
I think it's gonna be a great debate. I'm gonna be tuning in tonight. I do think JD Vance will come out as the clear cut winner. I think he will control, the stage, and I think he's gonna dominate Tim Waltz. I think Tim Waltz will fall apart and crack, probably get overly aggressive at times, whereas JD Vance will stay calm, cool, and collected.
JD Vance will bring policy he'll show a clear comparison and contrast between the two campaigns and their policies and I think tim waltz is gonna lie I think he's gonna dodge and deflect. That is what you're gonna see out of him all night long. I think JD Vance will directly answer the question. Now I think the question CBS will pose to JD Vance will have undertones, negative undertones towards Vance and Trump and their policies. So because they're not gonna fact check is what they're saying, and they're not gonna step in and question the the candidate's, answers.
But I do think the questions that JD Vance are gonna get will have those negative undertones. Right? It it'll be like kinda like the Trump questions. Like, they'll look at Vance and say, JD, tell us how bad you and Trump are as candidates and your policies. Whereas Tim Waltz's questions will be more along the line of, Tim, tell us how great your policies are or tell us how bad jd Vance and trump are I think that's how they're going to frame those questions and if you pay attention to the framing of the questions you'll catch it you'll see it mark my words Because one question will be more along the lines of tell us how shitty your policies are, JD and, you know, Trump's.
And then, oh, hey, Tim, tell us how bad trump and Vance's policies are you'll you'll catch it you'll catch the undertones you'll catch the framing I promise but I think even through that jd Vance will stay calm cool and collected he'll dismantle any questions like that because he's smarter than these moderators will be, guaranteed. He knows the game they play, and he knows Tim Waltz has no real substance to run on. And in a in a debate where those things are true, you're gonna control the stage. You're gonna you're gonna show the compare and contrast so well that there will be no doubt who won the debate after tonight. And I I do think Tim Walz gets rattled.
I I think he falls apart, and, you know, he'll lie, dodge, and deflect and watch. He will not he'll either lie, he won't answer the question directly, or he'll somehow deflect that question that he's asked, to JD and and Trump or some other third party, whether it be the people or other policymakers or congress or whatever. He'll deflect the blame, somewhere else where it doesn't belong. That that's the only thing you can do when you don't have actual substance that are popular, you know, popular substance to run on, and he does not. So get ready for a night of tales and weak arguments, from Tim Walz.
I think j JD Vance will handle his business or, like the kids say, he'll stand on business tonight, No doubt. But, I think old Timmy boy is gonna spend the entire debate, like, you know, it's some sort of episode of a fiction novel. We'll see. If you're watching, keep keep a close eye on on what I said. He will say make your drinking card, add some categories, and be ready to drink because you'll hear every single one of them.
And if you got a drink in your hand, well, it might make everything a little easier to swallow. No pun intended. Alright, guys. That's it for today's episode. I'm Justin Staten.
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